Welcome to the ULTIMATE STAR WARS vs STAR TREK DATABASE. Here, you will find out what these webpages are all about, and why it exists in the first place.
The webpages here reflect my sense of humor, my liberal use of profanity, and unmitigated disdain for those who willingly misinterpret and twist the facts to further their arguments. So be forewarned; if you don't enjoy dark, mean-spirited humor, this isn't the place for you. This website's main purpose is to aid those Star Wars fans in burying Trek fans who are involved in the "VS" arguments.
Why is this website "so mean"? Many of the "VS Trekkies" have proven themselves over the years to be deserving of the scorn I present here. Most are rabid, fanatic, will pull any stunt to deny counter arguments that combat their "beliefs".
Tips for being successful at these debates—
You've got to know your stuff. If you're a Star Wars fan, that means you've got to know Star Trek. You must be familiar with the canon— which is the aired episodes and the movies. Also, you've got to be familiar with the Star Wars canon and some VS Trekkies' crusades to misinterpret it. See the Sources section for more info. Many informative websites out there can be a great help in this regard. Check the Links section for these.
For these arguments to work, one has to begin with a healthy dose of "suspension of disbelief." Trek and Wars fans begin with the galactic constants between both universes; humans, asteroids, and planets are a common state of reference. Then the accepted canon of both franchises are treated as "documentary evidence". Star Trek vs. Star Wars arguments have been waged on Usenet, BBS boards, and internet message boards for years. Before the internet, Trek fans would sit in circles on hotel floors in conventions worldwide convincing themselves that other sci-fi franchises were inferior to Star Trek.
It's a fun, silly hobby, no different than any other fun, silly hobby.
All arguments end with the Star Wars side having the final say. Because, quite frankly, its my web page. As stated above, this is a resource for Star Wars fans to combat Star Trek fans, and to counter the flow of misinformation perpetrated by Trekkies. However, don't take this to mean that these webpages are unfair to Star Trek. Only the strongest and most often repeated arguments from Trek fans were chosen to be represented here. It helps SW fans see when someone is using inaccurate information against SW either by ignorance or design. By the same token, there are a lot of gems here for Trek fans to use against militant SW fans who use incorrect information in THEIR arguments.
Any calculations you may see here were not done by me; they were posted to a newsgroup by either Trek or Wars fans that know how to crunch numbers like these. The same goes for many of the scientific counters seen here.
No. This Database is an amalgamation of actual posts and opinions of Trek/Wars fans on the various newsgroups and message boards where these battles have been crossposted since 1995. I have participated in most of these arguments over the years.
Mike Wong was a prolific poster on the newsgroups before creating Stardestroyer.net. Many of his legendary Usenet arguments are used here.
No, I don't hate Star Trek or its fans. I loved TOS, hated TNG except for a few episodes, (Most having to do with the Klingons or Q), hated DS9 (A small handfull of episodes were ok, especially when Chief O' Brien was showcased), and actually enjoyed most of Voyager. As for the fans, some are annoying, insipid, and are trolling assholes. But not all of them. I hate on an individual basis, whether the objects of my wrath are Star Trek or Star Wars fans.
Yes, of course these arguments are stupid and time wasting. But then so is committing to memory baseball scores, football player stats, and Bible passages. It's the nature of the beast that man concerns himself with such unimportant prattle. And besides, it's FUN, asshole.
Actually, there are many subsets of VS Trekkies. Identifying the types of "VS Trekkies" that infest online message boards will help you greatly in your arguments. "VS Trekkies" come in all types, and I'm not just talking about the 600 pound malodorous dipshit in the Starfleet uniform who thinks he's Commander Riker. Below are examples of "VS Trekkies" you may encounter.
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