"I can't believe how bad this is, though. Karen wanted to rip out trachea on her LJ blog. This whole thing gets less and less believable by the second, though. It's just ridiculous what sorts of double-standards they'll subscribe to in order to clear Karen Traviss' name--especially since everyone acted so shocked and upset that anyone would send death threats to RA Salvatore."
—Mike Blackburn, from The Size of the Droid Army "Retconned"

"It's absolutely mind-boggling to me that I can insult Vonda N. McIntyre to no end on the official site and no one will say a thing to me, but if I even think about criticizing Karen Traviss' work, I'm likely to be banned from the site. Biased much?"
—Ben Lee, University of Iowa

How does a Star Wars urban legend begin? Some say they are invented to draw attention to those who retell it over and over again. Others speculate that they are self-serving tales invented so those with misinformation campaigns can point to these strawmen as false examples to bolster their cause.

Did you ever see the one about the Star Wars author who received death threats because he killed Chewbacca in one of his novels? Don't feel left out if you missed this bit of infamous internet history. Apparently,the author in question never saw the death threat either.

Many people "have been told" that these death threats exist, yet no one can point to any archived example of even one of them. Some cynical fans wonder if Star Wars fandom was tarnished on purpose simply to invent controversy or a media push for the "New Jedi Order", the new Star Wars Expanded Universe multimedia campaign. As beloved as Boba Fett, Yoda, and Darth Vader were, no death threats have ever surfaced against George Lucas for killing these characters off. And all three of them bit the dust in just one movie!

Did you ever hear the one about the Star Wars author who was driven off a Star Wars themed message board by abusive fans? Many have, but it seems the author herself invented that bit of fiction. You can read all about that bit of Star Wars fandom history here

How about the one where a moderator on the official Star Wars message boards writes a defamatory, self-serving, and libelous manifesto against a satirical fan film that dares to criticize a Star Wars author? Sit back and be prepared to experience yet another dark Star Wars tale...only this one is absolutely true.

June 8, 2006 "The Dark Moose" uses his moderator position on the official STAR WARS website to post the blog, Sex, Lies, and Video Hate describing violent content of the fan film satire, "Talifan!" and its special edition, "Talifan!" SE. The only problem is, the violent scenes he describes never appeared in either video. Moose equates the satire to influences of Columbine proportions, while further lying to his Star Wars fandom audience by telling them not to bother looking for the film online. Fans who have never seen the video accept the lies contained in The Dark Moose blog hook, line, and sinker, and voice their outrage.

The satire "Talifan!" was made as a direct response to Karen Traviss' war over the 3 million clone soldiers number, and her escalating attacks and name-calling against her critics. Traviss claims that only a small number of people were ever against her numbers. However, despite her allegations, a mere check of the online fans debating this number proves this to be false.

From karentraviss.livejournal.com: March 2006

I think the kind chap who defended me ought to be told that the "morons" he refers to in the Talifan (who are no doubt hiding out in the caves of Borer Borer < g > ) actually number ten or fewer. I counted them, with the aid of a few well-wishers in strategic locations.

From Galactic Senate.com: 04-10-2006, 02:13 AM

I've spent way too much time addressing the aggressively-expressed obsessions of fewer than a dozen people. (I counted them at the time. Some have disappeared, I'm told, but I'll be generous with the estimate.)

From Galactic Senate.com: 04-10-2006, 02:13 AM

I can tell you now that there will be frothing outrage from maybe three or four fans about Odds in the new Insider.

From http://blogs.starwars.com/karentraviss: 04-28-2006

You know how many folks are driving this "war"? The size of the fandom that is "up in arms"? I counted them, with a little help from my friends. It's between 7 and 12 individual people.

From Galactic Senate.com: 04-29-2006, 03:01 PM

This is a tiny number of people - a dozen or less - and they aren't in any way representative of SW fandom.

From forums.starwars.com: May 01, 2006 09:11 AM

This is my final word on the personal abuse issue. I've been the subject of personal attacks from around a dozen or so "fans" since September/ October last year.

In actual fact, there have been far more fans who agree that three million clones is a ridiculously small number of troops to fight a galactic-scale war:

Links from above:

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=85708

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=87169

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=77504

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=78447

The most expedient way to illustrate all of Dark Moose's fabricated claims against both versions of "Talifan!", is to delve into his blog point by point

Dark Moose

An ex-poster made a disturbing video and threw it up on YouTube. It's gone now, don't even bother looking for it. It violated multiple provisions in their Terms of Use.

Incorrect. Moose is referring "Talifan!" SE, which used a KISS song in the soundtrack. Moose, his Youtube sock-puppets, and his band of merry followers flagged the video as "inappropriate", citing copyright violation, then spinned it to his blog fans as being pulled for violent content. Note the original version of "Talifan!" has never been pulled from Youtube, because it uses royalty-free music.

Dark Moose

I was a little concerned at the idea it was allowed on their site for any amount of time (there was a previous version of it). But once they viewed it and circumstances surrounding it, trust was restored in their standards by them removing it.

It seems The Dark Moose's morality meter only goes off if his friend, Karen Traviss is the subject of less than flattering commentary (or a video includes his name in it as a definition of "asshat".) Dark Moose had no concerns whatsoever with a Youtube video called, Die Lucas Die, a "comedy" where fans plot the assasination of George Lucas before he can make any more Star Wars prequels.

Note that Die Lucas Die was posted on Youtube March 31, 2006, two weeks before the original version of "Talifan!" even existed. Die Lucas Die remains on Youtube to this day, proving that even though Youtube "viewed it and circumstances surrounding it", it wasn't removed. Dark Moose attempts to hoodwink his audience into believing he, his sock puppets, and his friends won a moral victory by having "Talifan!" SE removed. In reality, the aforementioned copyrighted song in the soundtrack was the reason for its removal. With dishonesty of this sort, one has to question what moral standards starwars.com abides by if they allow dishonest moderators to speak for the official site.

Dark Moose

Before we get into it's contents, let's make something clear - some rush to identify with this term without understanding it's meaning. Some believe it has to do with simply being critical of some media tie-in books. They think it's a derogatory term invented to silence dissenters.

Here, The Dark Moose offers up the actual explanation of the term "talifan", to set up his self-serving definition of the term below. This is a classic strawman fallacy used by dishonest debaters the world over.

Dark Moose

A "talifan" is someone who personally attacks, harrasses, berates, even threatens and extorts authors in an effort to make their criticism heard.

Incorrect. "Talifan" was coined by authors who bristle at negative criticism of their work. Traviss is the latest author to join this author support group. Fans of Dune who are unhappy the latest novels written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert have had long battles with these authors due to, in their view, sub-par novels perpetuating the Dune legacy. Anderson and Herbert have resorted to calling these fans "talifans", while disgruntled Dune fans retaliated by labeling Anderson and Herbert "Pinky and the Brain". Dune "talifans" have even gone so far as buying the domain, http://www.talifan.com

Dark Moose

A Talifan is marked as such because of their methodology. It's not what they say, it's how they say it. It's not the opinion, it's the behavior.

Here, The Dark Moose exhibits yet another debating fallacy: "style over substance". Proponents of this fallacy believe that as long as insults are couched in false conciliatory prose, they are in the moral right. Debate is not for consensus; it is to discover the truth. You can see The Dark Moose and Karen Traviss tell tech-minded fans to "get a life"...kindly:

From Karen Traviss' starwars.com blog, "Special Forces"

Dark Moose

In particular, a Talifan has a few earmarks: Harassing demeanor - they seek out the author or artist to attack them verbally on the same point over and over and over. Even if its a point they had nothing to do with in creating. Even if its a point they can do nothing about to change. Harrassment flows quickly into a kind of "e-stalking" in that wherever that artist/author may go on the Internet, they go, too.

The Dark Moose seems to be admitting that he and Traviss fit the definition of a "talifan" with this entry in his blog. Traviss and Dark Moose spread their crusade to several websites. They duo were also not shy about casting aspersions against their opponents:

SD.net post referring to Karen Traviss' LiveJournal post (which has since been deleted)

From the starwars.com forums

From Karen Traviss' starwars.com blog, Attention-seeking for beginners, where she takes issue with postings from a personal website.

Dark Moose

Personal attacks - A Talifan doesn't criticize a book, or a game, or a poster or a model or collector's item. A Talifan attacks people. Personally. Often times, profanely. Instead of making a suggestion or offering a point for debate, they purposefully attempt to make the author or artist feel besieged. They will attack their professional abilities. They will attack their level of competence.

Incorrect. The fans Traviss and Dark Moose label "talifans" do offer valid points of debate, and back up their grievances with logical solutions. Refer to Daniel K's Starship Troopers analysis.

Fans garner the label "talifans" from insecure authors who refuse to be corrected or admit mistakes, and who are incapable of holding their own in a debate. These fans resort to profanity when said author goads the fans on their personal blogs, message boards where they are protected by the immunity that the title "VIP" provides, and are protected by the hypocritical mod practices by The Dark Moose. These authors are allowed to be as confrontational as they wish. However, any non-profane response in kind is enough for a ban on starwars.com.

As for "personal attacks", Traviss fits this definition of "talifan" as well.

From Karen Traviss' April 13, 2006 LiveJournal blog

Traviss gets high "talifan" scores with this one blog alone. She alleges that tech fans that like to express their fandom by discussing the quantifiable aspects ofthe galaxy far, far away have Aspergers, OCD, are obsessive and religious zealots, have no sex lives, are anti-social...

And need to be "garroted" and shot, in Traviss' opinion. Note that this melange of insults was posted by Traviss one day before the original version of "Talifan!" was posted online (April 14, 2006), and was not a response to the video.

Dark Moose

And make no mistake when we say here that authors, artists, production staff members, actors, game developers, continuity wranglers, even George Lucas himself is a member of this community. They are not somehow magically excluded from the respect and courtesy we show each other just because of their position. Just as clear is that we moderators have the full backing to protect every member of this community from such attacks within the scope of our abilities and authorities.

Apparently, tech fans are excluded from this alleged "respect and courtesy" of the Star Wars community "because of their position", as shown above. In fact, it seems that Karen Traviss is on a much higher plane than any other person associated with Lucasfilm, when it comes to the moderating staff of the starwars.com forums. Authors such as Vonda N. McIntyre, Kevin J. Anderson, Timothy Zahn, Barbara Hambley, and Curtis Saxton are routinely criticized on the starwars.com forums, without mod retaliation or attack blogs written about them by The Dark Moose. Even the slightest infraction or criticism against Traviss on the starwars.com forums is enough for an immediate ban by The Dark Moose, and the immediate deletion of the offending post(s). However, other authors and even Lucasfilm staff do not appear to be as important:

(The above screenshot taken 03-05-07)

(The above screenshot taken 03-06-07)

(The above screenshot, a comment against an EU author from a starwars.com moderator, taken 03-05-07).
So much for "moderators protecting every member of this community"

Dark Moose

But more importantly, I feel a responsibility to raise awareness elsewhere of this kind of behavior, because it's wrong, and I believe deviant and even sets dangerous precedent.

Apparently, The Dark Moose doesn't seem to think an author who advocates garroting, shooting fans, or fantasizes about ripping the tracheas out of her critics is deviant behavior, or sets a dangerous precident.

Dark Moose

The original version of the video depicted a meeting.

The Special Edition does as well.

Dark Moose

I won't link to it, because it's only found on his private web space now.

Again, The Dark Moose tries to corral public perception on "Talifan!" to only his blog description, while
lying to his starwars.com audience and denying them the choice to form an objective opinion about
"Talifan!" for themselves.

Dark Moose

Not to mention, it's objectionable, and it doesn't belong on this site - I've already removed it once.

And then Traviss happily provided a link to the original version of this web page on the forums of starwars.com, which included "Talifan!"embedded within its contents. Thank you BTW, Karen.

Dark Moose

As mentioned before, the title of the video is simply "Talifan!". A man, who we assume represents the fan in question and protagonist, walks in and asks what's going on from one of the many white armor-clad troopers, who obviously represent clone troopers. The trooper answers that an author is speaking the language she invented, and apparently defending "her" troop numbers.

The video satirizes the whole Traviss / 3 million clones affair, so yes, the author defends "her" numbers just as Traviss has done:

For the record, "Concerned Fan" walks up to a "fandabonian" in costume, not an actual clone solder, since this satire doesn't exactly take place "in universe". Of course, "fandabonian" is a parody of Karen Traviss fans who call themselves "FANdalorians" and talk to her and themselves in the "Mand'oa" language of the Mandalorians that she invented.

Yeah...

Dark Moose

After some low-brow allusions to things like "speaking Mandabonian" (? please), the fan being "just a concerned Space Force fan" (? ok, really),

Incorrect. "Concerned Fan" says he's a "Space WARS" fan.

Dark Moose

and one "Sharon Crevice" (this is clever?),

Thank you, but it's certainly not as clever as calling your detractors "talifans".

Dark Moose

it gets dark in a hurry in the following segment: 1 ) He confronts the Author about not only regarding the numbers issue but the creation of a language for the fans.

A point that screamed to be satirized, since Karen Traviss thinks fans who deal with the quantifiable aspects of ships like the Super Star Destroyer are beyond the pale of geekiness.

Curiously, Traviss doesn't seem to think learning a fake scifi language, posting in it and speaking in it constitutes geekiness.

Dark Moose

2) He calls her the "C" word..

And that word is "CUNT" for those who are curious. I thought "BITCH" was a little too overused. I was going to use "TWAT", but Traviss had already beaten me to that one:

Traviss using the word "TWAT" to describe talifans, one day before "Talifan!" was uploaded to Youtube

Dark Moose

3) He grabs her lapel, and shakes her violently.

Incorrect. Dark Moose describes the scene as if it were a throttling.     

Which it was not. Here is the scene in question:

Dark Moose

4) And in his film-based fantasy, he berates her nose to nose, snarling in her face, driving her backwards while still physically grappling her.

Dark Moose conveniently omits the scenes before this one, where Sharon Crevice (in the original version) has her fandabonians attack Concerned Fan, and holds Concerned Fan's arms behind him as he's being punched relentlessly. In the Special Edition, Sharon Crevice has her fandabonians attack Concerned Fan with their laser rifles. Also, "grappling" never takes place beyond momentary lapel grab.

Dark Moose

4) 5) And then he pushes her to the ground and stands over her in apparent male dominance and self-righteousness.

Incorrect. Perhaps Mr. Moose has fantasies of pushing females to the ground and standing over them triumphantly, but the scene he describes NEVER took place in any version of "Talifan!". One has to wonder what criteria one must pass to be a moderator and public face on something as well regarded as the official website for the star wars films. Completely fabricating negative scenes in a fan film satire for the sole purpose of inciting outrage in the Star Wars community doesn't seem like an admirable trait any employer would be eager to condone.

Dark Moose

His fantasy victim grabs her mid-section as if injured, breaks down in tears, and runs away.

Again, allusions to physical violence that never took place in any version of "Talifan!". Concerned Fan never strikes or otherwise injures Sharon Crevice. Apparently, someone clutching their midsection when overcome by emotion and/or the smoke from a raging fire is a bit too much for Dark Moose to wrap his antlers around.

Dark Moose

That's just the first version he posted on YouTube. After complaints, he yanked it, and re-posted what he deemed was a more appropriate version.

Incorrect. "Talifan!" has never been taken off Youtube since it was uploaded April 14, 2006. Some constructive criticism regarding Concerned Fan and the Fandabonians' confrontation, the video quality, as well as the music prompted a higher-res sequel.

Dark Moose

The differences? 1) He bleeped the C word.

Surprisingly correct. CUNT was not bleeped for any reason other than I think it's funnier. As I was putting together the Special Edition, "Malcom In The Middle" was on TV, and the episode was a satire on censorship, where the principal ordered Malcom to censor "suck my dick" from a school newspaper article, using stars to symbolize the censored words: "S**k my d**k". Malcom responds that what's the point of doing that, since everyone knows what the words actually are anyway when censored like that. The capper of the scene is that the principal says "suck my dick" several times, slowly and carefully when berating Malcom, and the only word not bleeped is "my". Now that's satire.

Dark Moose

2) He made a reference to him not being a "mysonginist" (again "just a concerned Space Force fan") which apparently had been a label given to him in previous complaints regarding the first version.

Again, more fabrication from this moderator of the official Star Wars website. The "misogynist" line is unchanged from the original version:

Above scene from the original version of "Talifan!"

Above scene from "Talifan!" SE. Note the differences in detail in the backgrounds denoting the original version from the Special Edition.

One has to wonder to why The Dark Moose has an apparent need to misrepresent the truth so much when putting together his rant. Traviss was throwing the "misogynist" label around at anyone who disagreed with her before "Talifan!"existed, which is why I included the line in the original.

Traviss

Every argument I see that I - and Ryan, too - but it's obviously more rewarding to attack a woman) have the "wrong" figures seems to be to be based on emotional arguments and assumptions. We professionals have to go with hard data. We have no choice.

Traviss

This final comment isn't directed at you, but is a general observation about the tone of the attacks on me since last September: they are highly emotional and gynophobic. The language used is not the language of numbers and logic.

The above comments from GalacticSenate.com forums, April 10, 2006. This was four days before the original version of "Talifan!" (completed in one afternoon on April 14, 2006) even existed.

Dark Moose

And then, the video just gets truly jacked up, and the real intention appears to be revealed. After his questions with the faux trooper, he becomes exponentially more violent....

And again, Mr. Moose omits things from video to paint it in the most negative light possible to those who haven't seen it. Concerned Fan doesn't get violent until AFTER Sharon Crevice orders her "fandabonians to "Get the Talifan!".

Dark Moose

4) In the middle of what appears to be a library, he produces a shotgun..

One has to wonder why The Dark Moose didn't have a problem with all the fandabonians brandishing laser rifles in the very same library, before Concerned Fan took out his shotgun.

Dark Moose

5) He begins to mow down any of the Sim-like characters who oppose him. Even people that haven't done anything to him.

Which people were these? Apparently, Dark Moose must have been watching another video, since this does not occur in any incantation of "Talifan!" I've made. ALL the fandabonians were firing at Concerned Fan. There were no "innocents" who were "mowed down". Again, (as you can see for yourself in the video) ONE fandabonian (who was shooting at Concerned Fan) was taken out by the shotgun. One. No "mowing down" occurs. No multiple targets are shot. No "innocents" are killed.

Apparently, honesty is not a requirement to be a moderator at starwars.com.

Dark Moose

6) He then produces hand grenades.

One grenade. Dark Moose's powers of observation is rivaled only by his dishonesty.

Dark Moose

He sets about the library blowing people apart, with either his shotgun or by fragmentation.

Yet another complete fabrication by the morally superior Dark Moose. Here is the scene in question:

Again, Mr. Moose is creating scenes in the video that never were, for the sole purpose of making it sound as sinister as possible. The shotgun was used once. The one grenade was used once.

"Dark Moose, can't you count?"

The Dark Moose's outright lie about the scene in question is again constructed to jack up the outrage meter in the blog's comment section. He used his position as moderator for the Star Wars website to speak in an official capacity, and create a willful and dangerous lie about a fan film. Because not only is the scene he's describing not actually IN the video....

It's absolutely impossible to do with The Movies program.

"The Movies" is the game I used to create "Talifan!" and "Talifan!" SE. There is no dismemberment animation sequences whatsoever in the game. In fact, while "The Movies" is rated T, there isn't even any BLOOD in the game.

So, to recap: no one in the video was "blown apart" by the shotgun or the grenade. We hear one person, offscreen, moan "D'oh!" and that's it.

It's pretty pathetic, when you think about it, that an agenda-driven troll in an official capacity on starwars.com falsely accuses a fan of transgressions he himself has to make up. Why is this person a moderator on the OFFICIAL website for starwars.com? Is this the kind of person Lucasfilm allows to speak for them in an official capacity?

Someone should write in and ask Lucasfilm this.

Dark Moose

A library. Shotguns, innocent bystanders blown away. Sound familiar? Ever hear of a tragic moment in time known as Columbine? Ever wonder where kids like that get such heinous influences?

If these kids click on www.starwars.com happen upon Dark Moose's blog, that would be the place they'd get such notions. Because there's no innocent bystanders being blown away in "Talifan!" and "Talifan!" SE. How low must a person be to use such a tragedy as Columbine in their agenda to falsely accuse a fan film maker of something he himself had to dream up, then lie about? Just because he was called an "asshat"? Is that how low a price a moderator for starwars.com would offer for decency and the memory of people slain before they had a chance to live? Are these the kinds of people starwars.com allows to flaunt their dishonesty in an official capacity?

Dark Moose

7) In the smoky aftermath of this ultra-violent rampage, he again confronts the Author, and man-handles her in the same fashion. Grabbing, shaking, screaming, pushing... and then he closes his hand around her throat.

For those of you keeping track at home, the above scenes were, yet again, completely fabricated by "The Dark Moose", as they never appear in any version of "Talifan!". Below is the scene in question. Pay close attention, so you won't miss the instances of the Talifan, as Dark Moose describes in his blog, grabbing, shaking, screaming, pushing...and closing his hand around the author's throat.

Did you see it?

Of course not! Those violent acts Mr. Moose describes in his blog NEVER APPEAR in any version of "Talifan!"

The dishonesty of Mr. Moose's is quite shocking, to say the least. The fact that he still has a job at starwars.com, is even more so. Watch the above scene again. See if you can find a scene where Concerned Fan screams, or closes his hand around the author's throat. Again, is Dark Moose the kind of person you want to see moderate the official starwars.com forums? A lying scumbag?

Dark Moose

He ends his tirade, making his final statement, a statement clearly intended for Karen Traviss.

The Dark Moose now accuses me with threatening a real-life person. His interpretation of the scene is of course, made as shocking as possible to sell his blog full of lies to those readers who may never bother seeing the video. Since Sharon Crevice is never harmed once, the throat-slashing gesture which came after Concerned Fan pantomimed showing the author the door would mean "get out, or else".

Dark Moose

8) He pantomimes throat-slashing to her. As in what is commonly used to say, without words, "You're dead."

And does Sharon Crevice fall over and die by witnessing this gesture? Nope. Does Sharon Crevice DIE at any point in the video? Nope. Maybe I should have had Concerned Fan repeat Karen Traviss' own words to Sharon Crevice instead:

"I'll rip your trachea out of your pitifully unworthy neck."

That would have probably been acceptable to Dark Moose. After all, Karen Traviss wrote those words in REAL LIFE, not a fictional parody video.

Dark Moose

Do I care that a fan has turned a violent fantasy into a video that attacks one of our Star Wars authors? Yes.

However, Mr. Moose didn't even flinch when George Lucas' life was apparently threatened in the fan film, "Die Lucas Die"...

Obviously, The Dark Moose doesn't care much for the truth, as we've witnessed here. "Talifan!" isn't a violent fantasy of mine. It's a PARODY lampooning the entire debacle, and the label authors place on those that disagree with them. If you name someone after a violent, radical religious sect that blows people up, and flies planes into buildings, it stands to reason that a parody would mimic that label, and make the "talifan" of the title act in even the sanitized violent way he does in both "Talifan!" movies.

Dark Moose

Because the ending, the definitions, couldn't be more ironic - what he sees as satire has been confused with posting a violent fantasy on the Internet which appears to many to be a veiled threat.

Then I must be in good company. Karen Traviss likes to make veiled threats of garroting and trachea-ripping, and the makers of "Die Lucas Die" advocate assassination for anyone who doesn't make movies they way they want them. But that doesn't seem disturb The Dark Moose. I guess all one needs is a Star Wars book contract and the wherewithal to befriend an easuly manipulated starwars.com moderator to become your personal Stepin Fetchit. Emperor Palpatine would be pleased. If I had a Star Wars book contract and paid attention to him, I expect he'd be kissing my ass too.

Dark Moose

I'm going to say this (and everything I say about this video is just my opinion) unequivocally speaking, this video sickens me. Of all the very wonderful fan videos out there that people have produced, the funny ones, the thoughtful ones, the weird ones...this one belongs nowhere in those ranks. This is a hate video, pure and simple, made to represent the fantasies of a fan that, in his dreams, would forego making a logical case for change, and instead would clear a room of those that disagree with him using death and mayhem as his chief tools.

Does anyone else find it strange that The Dark Moose would focus all his vehemence and dishonest skills on "Talifan!", which lampoons the whole "3 Million Clones" debate, focusing on an an author he's very chummy with, yet completely ignore these films like "Die Lucas Die"?

Note to George Lucas: Pretend you like the starwars.com moderators. It may come in handy in a pinch...

How about this Youtube classic; a Mad TV skit that labels George Lucas a racist. I don't recall Dark Moose using a starwars.com blog to vent his outrage about that one. Anyone else NOT think that this is all a personal vendetta? Is that allowed on starwars.com?

Points to note:

03-31-06: "Die Lucas Die" uploaded to Youtube. The result? No flaming by the Dark Moose. No public outcry by Dark Moose. No attack blog by Dark Moose on the official Star Wars website.

04-14-06: "Talifan!" uploaded to Youtube. The result? Dark Moose and his cronies flaming the film in the comments section, Dark Moose and Karen Traviss traveling to other websites, complaing about "Talifan!", and recruiting people like Bryan Lambert to write a two day essay on his website.

06-03-06: "Talifan!" SE uploaded to Youtube. The result?

06-08-06: Attack blog by The Dark Moose on the official Star Wars website.

What's the difference between these three films? Was "Talifan!" SE so morally reprehensible to The Dark Moose that films allegedly pushing women over and "comedies" with assasination attempts against the creator of Star Wars were a lesser evil? No. Here's the difference between all three films:

Dark Moose

And then, done as a dubious coups de grace, mime cutting someone's throat.

Try as you might, Mr. Moose, you still can't equate something like that in a parody video to someone saying they'd like to rip out tracheas in REAL LIFE.

Moose goes on to tell all Star Wars fans to not put up with people with violent fantasies. To speak out whenever they see it.

I agree.

Don't buy any books from Star Wars authors who advocate ripping peoples tracheas out, or garroting them to death.

Don't pay for special content accounts on official websites who employ dishonest moderators that fabricate violent fantasies, and use a national tragedy in the process to further a lie.