• 2003 UPDATES
  • 2002 UPDATES
  • 2001 UPDATES
  • 2000 UPDATES
  • 1999 UPDATES
  • 1998 UPDATES
  • 1997 UPDATES

    2004 UPDATES

    12-20-04--Added two one-sentence "reviews" of RAIDERS of the GOLDEN EYEBALL to the ROTGE page!

    12-19-04--STAR WARS THE DARK SIDE is now open. You can check it out by clicking on the "Star Wars" section, strangely enough!

    12-12-04--I doing a few cosmetic changes all around the nooks and crannies of the Morgue. Stay tuned!

    12-7-04--Things are moving slowly, but they're still moving! Stay tuned. There's a sequel to Trekmiss called Trekmiss2 online now; the hand weapon version! See it here.

    10-10-04--I put the masoleum onto this new site. The imagemap points you to several places: this update, my old makeup page, and my old "Star Wars vs Star Trek" page, and a new entry; "The Jyn Talas Project". My old website suffered a major crash, so the Star Wars page is about two years out of date. I'll update it and the makeup page as time allows. That being said, I'm trying to concentrate on new projects, and hopefully, original projects, so the Star Wars stuff will be taking a back burner for now.


    2003 UPDATES

    Info Lost To The Ravages of Time!


    2002 UPDATES

    Info Lost To The Ravages of Time!


    2001 UPDATES

    01-20-01--Accurized SHIELDS and TECH section now up at ULTIMATE STARWARS VS STARTREK DATABASE.

    01-06-01--Updated "The Base Delta Zero Controversy at ULTIMATE STARWARS VS STARTREK DATABASE"

    01-04-01--Added "The Base Delta Zero Controversy at ULTIMATE STARWARS VS STARTREK DATABASE"

    01-01-01--Added a "Sitefaq at ULTIMATE STARWARS VS STARTREK DATABASE"


    2000 UPDATES

    12-22-00--The "accurized" STARSHIP WEAPONRY section is now online!

    12-14-00--Over the course of the next few weeks, I am going to begin "accurizing" and cleaning up the website. What I mean by this is, is that I am going to fact-check all quotes and scenes mentioned in these debates, and post the accurate information under the original arguement in white.

    In so doing, I want to preserve the arguments in their original form, as they appeared on the newsgroups. While building this website, I have in the past merged three or more individual posts into one. Many of the same arguments have different points to consider, so an amalgamation of similar thoughts seemed the best way to go.

    When I update the Database, I will add an "Updated Arguments" title above the new content, along with the last update date, so readers can distinguish new info from all the other info here.

    Some of the multimedia files have also been moved to a new website. If you would like to peruse these directly, they are archived at

    THE ULTIMATE STARWARS VS. STARTREK AUDIO/VISUAL DATABASE

    11-16-00--Added search engine; new graphics on "Hate Mail" page.

    9-10-00--Updated the "HATE MAIL" page

    9-9-00--Added "Proton Torpedoes"

    9-9-00--Edited "2 GT Recoil From 'Slave Ship'" as requested by Michael Griffiths

    8-24-00--Added "2 GT Recoil From 'Slave Ship'" with a very special thanks to Michael Wong

    8-13-00--Added "The Wounded Fallacy"

    4-20-00--Fixed glaring gramattical errors in "Droids, Androids and AI" section, added more text to that section, and added Aron Kerkhoff's name to the Contributor's section again after it was accidentally erased! Added Quicktime video of General Veers using "maximum firepower in his AT-AT in the "Troops" section

    4-17-00--Added "Droids, Androids, and AI section.

    4-15-00--Eliminated background graphic on the "Hate Mail" page on the advice of Jonathan Boyd and Rob Dalton.

    4-13-00---Changed text in the "Starship Hulls" section of the "Tech" page to "scaled up Mandel mass" on advice of Jonathan Boyd.
    4-12-00---Major updates:

    Added "Starship Hulls" section to "Tech"
    Added text to Starfleet size in "Starship Weaponry
    " Added "Asteroid links" to the "Starship Weaponry" section.
    Added a Mike Wong rebuttal about Death Star calcs and Dreadnaught missle vs. DS to the "Death Star" section of "Planet-Busting Weaponry."
    Added 3 new entries to the "Hate mail" section
    Added "Weapons Speeds" to "Starship Weaponry" .
    Added Rich Handley's comments on Marvel SW continuity, and a word about the Sith in Dark Horse comics by Kevin J Anderson in the "Canon" section
    Added "Communications" section to "Tactics"
    Added fighter weapons power text to "power" section of "Starship Weaponry."
    Added "Limitations" section and text to the "Range" section of "Sensors"
    Added "Characteristics" section to "Shields"
    Added "Hyperspace vs. Transwarp" section to "Speed"
    Added "Transporters" section to "Tactics"
    Added text to "Targeting" section of "Starship Weaponry."
    Added "Reaction Times" section to "Troops"
    Added Han Solo on Enterprise pic by eljo@tip.nl to the "What's New" section

    Added "Chewbacca vs Worf" section to "Troops

    Added the "Maneuverability" section

    4-9-00---Changed 40mm chain guns to 20mm Phalanx mounts on the advice of Charles Glasgow, former MM3, USN (hon. disch) in the "Starship Weaponry" section. Sorry, Matt!

    20mm Phalanx mounts 4-2-00---Changed 50mm machine guns to 40mm chain guns on advice of Matthew Hyde in the "Starship Weaponry" section. HAPPY MATT?? :)

    3-8-00---HATE MAIL, POWER, SENSOES, SHIELDS, SPEED, TACTICS, and TECH are all back up

    3-2-00---Starship Weaponry and Borg vs. The Empire is back up, and all links fixed. More soon.

    2-19-00---Slowly but surely revamping the page. Be patient!


    1999 UPDATES

    10-16-99---Changed the section in "BORG VS. THE EMPIRE" where Voyager was hit by S-8472 before being modified by thr Borg. Thanks to Michael Griffiths for pointing out the error.

    10-1-99---Brian Young has converted all the .wav files on the Database to QuickTime audio .movs. A HUGE thanks to ya, man!

    9-20-99--Added three pictures to the "Troops" page

    9/16/99--The "Troops" page went up on the 13th!

    7/2/99--Updated the Ultimate Starwars vs. Startrek Database. Restructured "Starship Weaponry" to make it easier to read, and to correct the typos.

    6/26/99--"Borg vs. the Empire" Is now up! Check it out!

    4/12/99--Made a few changes to the "Starship Weaponry" section. Fixed the BoP in "Generations" mistake (disruptor fire instead of torps, thanks to David Poole for pointing that out!) And I also added two pictures of the Defiant MISSING a target even while locked on to it, contrary to Trek arguements which state Federation ships NEVER miss.

    4/11/99--"Planet Busting Weaponry" is now up! Check it out! I'll begin work on "The Borg vs. The Empire" soon..I'm currently working on my fiancee's poetry page!

    4/8/99--The TV guide link below has expired, but TheForce.neet has a copy of it. Go here: TheForce.net Star Wars Prequel News (Again, special thanks to Charles Glasgow for the hyperlink above!)

    4/6/99--Still working on "Planet Busting Weaponry"! But while you're waiting, get a load of this from TV Guide.Com:

    TREK TAKES A BACK SEAT TO STAR WARS: Don't hold your breath (or start lining up) for the next Star Trek flick. "It's going to be a few years before we revisit the Enterprise," Jonathan Frakes (Riker) tells The New York Daily News. "Patrick Stewart (Picard) doesn't want to do one for about three years, and the studio wisely believes we should let the Star Wars films come and go before we get back on the ship. We want to stay out of their way. But you know we will be back."

    Guess we FINALLY have official proof on who the real winner is! (Special thanks to Charles Glasgow for reminding me to include the hyperlink above!)

    3/15/99--The SPEED, TECH, and TACTICS pages are now back up. Again, no new updates yet. However, I've added a couple letters to the "Hate Mail" section. And yet ANOTHER big thanks to the amazing Ethan Platten for the cleanup of the above stardestroyer image! Enjoy!

    3/14/99--I've postponed the "Handweapons" section for now, and will concentrate on another new section "Planet Busting Weaponry." While I work on this, I've put back the Power, Sensors, and Shields section. These haven't been updated yet, just the images have been thumbnailed. I'll put up a couple more old sections later.

    3/7/99--The Ultimate Starwars vs. Startrek Database has went through major changes. Major refining of the Starship Weaponry section. Due to many reader complaints of slow load-time, I've converted many of the inline pics to thumbnails. Should load a LOT faster now! Very special thanks to Ethan Platten, Curtis Saxton, and Mike Wong. Also refined comments in the asteroids section thanks once again to Mike Wong! Added this new Update link! Added link to the "Stuntzilla Homepage" and reloaded "The Last Sunrise" poster to Cervix V. Added new links to the Hymen Barrier. Cleaned up the main page HTML-wise. Check it out!

    2/28/99--The page is back! I've completely revamped the "Starship Weaponry" section now, with new pics, easieer navigation, and its 4 times as big as it was!! Some other sections are back up too, like the Hate mail, Canon, and MisTing SW! Special thanks to Ethan Platten for designing the new "ULTIMATE STTARWARS VS STARTREK DATABASE logo! I'm now working on the "Handweapons" section. Stay Tuned!


    1998 UPDATES

    Info Lost To The Ravages of Time!


    1997 UPDATES

    Info Lost To The Ravages of Time!